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T: Fuel Tank Very Early Small Cut away Tank


genedn

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I have what I believe is a very early small cut away tank. I purchased it this weekend from a friend and fellow VOC member.

Can anyone confirm or do they know if the early tanks looked like the one I have. There are several distinctive features, the front tank mounts are welded to the inside tunnel of the tank, it also has no rear tabs to connect and reduce vibration. Please see the photos below and would love some input.

Best,

Eugene.
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TouringComet

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True, early tanks did not have the tabs at the rear for the support spacer. When tanks quickly started splitting, the tabs and spacer were added.
 

TouringComet

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According to the list of mods in the owners handbook, the distance piece started with frame number 2416.
 

genedn

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I understand form the Craig's list on the vincent.com the tabs were added around engine 408 - 1948ish

Petrol tank T1 added rear lugs, spacer, bolt and nuts40924081948
 

Somer

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There was actually an even earlier tank. It was slightly larger. One is pictured in Bickerstaff's book. I found the remains of one when I brought a load out of Argentina in 91.
 

vin998

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Be careful with vincent.com website as there are a lot of errors on that site, especially when looking at what they list as production numbers & serial numbers etc.
Simon
 

genedn

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There was actually an even earlier tank. It was slightly larger. One is pictured in Bickerstaff's book. I found the remains of one when I brought a load out of Argentina in 91.
Hi Somer,

Was the front mounts of the tank inboard like this one? I will have to take a look in Her book and see if I can find it.
 

TouringComet

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Be careful with vincent.com website as there are a lot of errors on that site, especially when looking at what they list as production numbers & serial numbers etc.
Simon
The copy of the Richardson list I have shows the frame number only, for when the petrol tank distance piece was added. It is listed as frame 2416. Where did thevincent.com get 2408? And when any type of information lists only one number, frame or engine, I would never attempt to reverse engineer the other number, since there are too many rules, and even variations within a given rule.
 

passenger0_0

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Hi Eugine,
I've taken a couple of photos of the front tank mounts from my early B (you know the number). This tanks is slightly different shape compared to later ones, particularly around the rear mount, and the oil filler sticks up higher. Come have a look at the upcoming national rally?
Cheers David
 

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genedn

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David,

I would imagine that yours is a flat bottom tank too. It probably stated life with no rear tabs

I’ll be in touch about the rally.

Best.
 

genedn

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So I guess my "early" small cut out tank is the more "conventional" Series B tank as you would expect to see without the rear support spacer tabs?
This is more than likely a bit later than ones David and I have. It has the anti vibration pressed areas in the bottom and the rear tabs to tie the two halves together.
 
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BigEd

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Hi Eugine,
I've taken a couple of photos of the front tank mounts from my early B (you know the number). This tank is a slightly different shape compared to later ones, particularly around the rear mount and the oil filler sticks up higher. Come have a look at the upcoming national rally?
Cheers David
I noticed a small hole in each bracket. I've done this on one of my petrol tanks for lock wiring so that I can just squeeze the rubbers a little without fear of the bolts vibrating out.
 

passenger0_0

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I noticed a small hole in each bracket. I've done this on one of my petrol tanks for lock wiring so that I can just squeeze the rubbers a little without fear of the bolts vibrating out.
Must admit that I've not really noticed these little holes before. She's not a race bike so only the oil feed drain plug is wire-locked. I make a point of tightening everything to be just snug with anti-sieze lube. If anything comes loose then it's a sign there's something wrong with the engine.
 

Pushrod Twin

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This is more than likely a bit later than ones David and I have. It has the anti vibration pressed areas in the bottom and the rear tabs to tie the two halves together.
Yes,bottom pressings. No rear tabs. Maybe slightly broader at the back, but may also be the angle I took the photo at. Sorry, I cant bring it to the rally, it doesnt fit over my 4" diameter oil tank. :confused:
 

TouringComet

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Regarding when the tabs and distance piece were added, Bickerstaff's book Original Vincent is where the frame number 2408 is listed.
 

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