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Oil, is there a definitive answer?
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<blockquote data-quote="Peter Holmes" data-source="post: 172536" data-attributes="member: 302"><p>Having just discovered a front cylinder big end bearing failure, I thought I would pose the question, is this failure entirely of my own doing.</p><p>The engine was rebuilt approx 60k miles ago by a very reputable engine builder, particularly well known for excellent flywheel assemblies.</p><p>To the best of my knowledge everything else was as it should be, ignition timing, valve timing, good carburation, clean oil tank, frequent oil</p><p>changes, paper filter, always primed before use after any lay off, etc. etc.</p><p></p><p>So now the oil, for many years I have been using Motul 300V Ester Core Oil, originally 20-50w, and latterly 20-60w, and some people throw</p><p>up their hands in horror, and in light of recent events they might be well justified in doing so.</p><p></p><p>But the main point of discussion always seems to be cam and cam follower wear, and this is the curious thing, after the same amount of miles (60k)</p><p>the cams and followers show no appreciable wear whatsoever, in fact nothing else in the engine shows any signs of wear attributable to bad lubrication,</p><p>the front piston and barrel has suffered, but that is only due to the debris that the big end threw out.</p><p></p><p>So my conclusion could be that Motul 300V 20-60w is a good oil to use, and reading the information on the Motul website certainly seems to suggest this,</p><p>but then we come to roller big ends, in my case an INA bearing, a motorcycling friend of mine, ex Isle of Man TT racer and engineer says it is the worst</p><p>oil that I could possibly use, as the Vincent engine was not designed to run on it, and I think the rationale for his thinking is that on startup, the oil is so</p><p>slippery that the big end rollers momentarily skid instead of roll as intended.</p><p></p><p>So now the unanswerable question, if I had been using Castrol classic 20-50 multigrade or Castrol Classic 40 grade would I have avoided my current</p><p>problem, and more importantly, once my engine back up and running, what oil should I be using?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peter Holmes, post: 172536, member: 302"] Having just discovered a front cylinder big end bearing failure, I thought I would pose the question, is this failure entirely of my own doing. The engine was rebuilt approx 60k miles ago by a very reputable engine builder, particularly well known for excellent flywheel assemblies. To the best of my knowledge everything else was as it should be, ignition timing, valve timing, good carburation, clean oil tank, frequent oil changes, paper filter, always primed before use after any lay off, etc. etc. So now the oil, for many years I have been using Motul 300V Ester Core Oil, originally 20-50w, and latterly 20-60w, and some people throw up their hands in horror, and in light of recent events they might be well justified in doing so. But the main point of discussion always seems to be cam and cam follower wear, and this is the curious thing, after the same amount of miles (60k) the cams and followers show no appreciable wear whatsoever, in fact nothing else in the engine shows any signs of wear attributable to bad lubrication, the front piston and barrel has suffered, but that is only due to the debris that the big end threw out. So my conclusion could be that Motul 300V 20-60w is a good oil to use, and reading the information on the Motul website certainly seems to suggest this, but then we come to roller big ends, in my case an INA bearing, a motorcycling friend of mine, ex Isle of Man TT racer and engineer says it is the worst oil that I could possibly use, as the Vincent engine was not designed to run on it, and I think the rationale for his thinking is that on startup, the oil is so slippery that the big end rollers momentarily skid instead of roll as intended. So now the unanswerable question, if I had been using Castrol classic 20-50 multigrade or Castrol Classic 40 grade would I have avoided my current problem, and more importantly, once my engine back up and running, what oil should I be using? [/QUOTE]
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