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<blockquote data-quote="timetraveller" data-source="post: 98161" data-attributes="member: 456"><p>I did think about progressive springs but did wonder whether, for test purposes, there might be another way. This would require another small diameter spring to be placed inside the springs provided, similar to the original Vincent design. The present springs all have a length of 16.5" (the 45 are 15.5") and are installed with 3" of pre-load, i.e. 13.5" long. The idea would be that an inner spring would have to have a length of, say 12.5" so it did nothing until the first inch of movement had occurred. After that it would increase the spring rate by an amount depending upon the inner spring rate. In the end the 45s proved so satisfactory when tested by Chris Launders (bearings in lower link, stiffer than standard AVO damper, twin with Chris with a weight of about 300 lbs, 134 kgs,) that there did not seem to be any need to go further. Chris posted a video of the movement of his forks over a ten mile run on south Yorkshire roads and the forks moved really easily. The Tilleys have just found the same, a really easy and controlled movement over a wide variety of road surfaces, from small ripples to sleeping policemen. This ability to deflect easily with small imperfections in the road surface suggests to me that this system is not over damped and the resistance to bottoming out (with an inch cut of the inner and outer spring boxes) also suggests that the spring rates are about right. breaking heavily while going down hill seems to me to be a good test but will cause bottoming out unless the spring boxes are shortened. The system is designed to allow 3" of movement and that takes the outer spring box very near/colliding with the bracket on the fork blade. Tracy tells me that they have also made a video of the fork movement so perhaps we will see that some time. Once again, the more feedback the better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="timetraveller, post: 98161, member: 456"] I did think about progressive springs but did wonder whether, for test purposes, there might be another way. This would require another small diameter spring to be placed inside the springs provided, similar to the original Vincent design. The present springs all have a length of 16.5" (the 45 are 15.5") and are installed with 3" of pre-load, i.e. 13.5" long. The idea would be that an inner spring would have to have a length of, say 12.5" so it did nothing until the first inch of movement had occurred. After that it would increase the spring rate by an amount depending upon the inner spring rate. In the end the 45s proved so satisfactory when tested by Chris Launders (bearings in lower link, stiffer than standard AVO damper, twin with Chris with a weight of about 300 lbs, 134 kgs,) that there did not seem to be any need to go further. Chris posted a video of the movement of his forks over a ten mile run on south Yorkshire roads and the forks moved really easily. The Tilleys have just found the same, a really easy and controlled movement over a wide variety of road surfaces, from small ripples to sleeping policemen. This ability to deflect easily with small imperfections in the road surface suggests to me that this system is not over damped and the resistance to bottoming out (with an inch cut of the inner and outer spring boxes) also suggests that the spring rates are about right. breaking heavily while going down hill seems to me to be a good test but will cause bottoming out unless the spring boxes are shortened. The system is designed to allow 3" of movement and that takes the outer spring box very near/colliding with the bracket on the fork blade. Tracy tells me that they have also made a video of the fork movement so perhaps we will see that some time. Once again, the more feedback the better. [/QUOTE]
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