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<blockquote data-quote="davidd" data-source="post: 91498" data-attributes="member: 1177"><p>Recently in the Greg Brillus Racer thread there has been some discussion of cornering. Style is a personal thing, but so is how you set up your bike. I found that road racers tend to not want to drag anything on the bike because it tends to disturb the handling rather than improve it. Of course, with street bikes you have to make some compromises that you probably would not make on the track.</p><p></p><p>I wanted to check the racers clearance. I took the springs out of the suspension, front and rear. This gave me the "worst case" scenario.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]19828[/ATTACH]</p><p>I lowered it to the side with a chain hoist and I tied the front end to the band saw to keep the wheel from flopping. I got 45 degrees on the digital level.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]19830[/ATTACH]</p><p>This is the view down there. The silver peg is the foot peg. The one further back is for the track stand.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]19831[/ATTACH]</p><p>I mocked up an exhaust pipe to see where it would fit and it did not. You have to run a high pipe or a pipe under the center line of the engine. It is nearly impossible to run under the engine because there is a catch pan requirement and there is a silencer requirement. There is just not enough room under there. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]19829[/ATTACH]</p><p>This shows how close the 2" pipe runs. Where do you go to clear the shifter?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]19832[/ATTACH]</p><p>Finally, it is good to be able to shift even if this is the worst case scenario. I am rotating the shifter down.</p><p></p><p>The other side is a little more straight forward. Surprisingly, it is tighter even though I narrowed up the primary case.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]19833[/ATTACH]</p><p>It doesn't touch, but it is close. I did "high side" once and primary cover was scratched in that area, but it is not a great concern when cornering.</p><p></p><p>I came to realize that the pegs should never touch down unless you crash. Nor should anything else in my opinion. I found this pretty easy to do in the shop and I learned a great deal by being able to visualize what might be going on.</p><p></p><p>David</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="davidd, post: 91498, member: 1177"] Recently in the Greg Brillus Racer thread there has been some discussion of cornering. Style is a personal thing, but so is how you set up your bike. I found that road racers tend to not want to drag anything on the bike because it tends to disturb the handling rather than improve it. Of course, with street bikes you have to make some compromises that you probably would not make on the track. I wanted to check the racers clearance. I took the springs out of the suspension, front and rear. This gave me the "worst case" scenario. [ATTACH=full]19828[/ATTACH] I lowered it to the side with a chain hoist and I tied the front end to the band saw to keep the wheel from flopping. I got 45 degrees on the digital level. [ATTACH=full]19830[/ATTACH] This is the view down there. The silver peg is the foot peg. The one further back is for the track stand. [ATTACH=full]19831[/ATTACH] I mocked up an exhaust pipe to see where it would fit and it did not. You have to run a high pipe or a pipe under the center line of the engine. It is nearly impossible to run under the engine because there is a catch pan requirement and there is a silencer requirement. There is just not enough room under there. [ATTACH=full]19829[/ATTACH] This shows how close the 2" pipe runs. Where do you go to clear the shifter? [ATTACH=full]19832[/ATTACH] Finally, it is good to be able to shift even if this is the worst case scenario. I am rotating the shifter down. The other side is a little more straight forward. Surprisingly, it is tighter even though I narrowed up the primary case. [ATTACH=full]19833[/ATTACH] It doesn't touch, but it is close. I did "high side" once and primary cover was scratched in that area, but it is not a great concern when cornering. I came to realize that the pegs should never touch down unless you crash. Nor should anything else in my opinion. I found this pretty easy to do in the shop and I learned a great deal by being able to visualize what might be going on. David [/QUOTE]
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