E: Engine Comet Mongrel

Martyn Goodwin

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I was planning on painting this engine black. Perhaps I need to build myself a vacuum chamber so I can pull out the remaining goo from the pores and fill it with 2 part black epoxy paint.

I think both Rapides (Oldhaven's and mine) should have been Shadows.
3M offer a service where they will vacuum impregnate castings with their special sealant to seal porosity. I think they do a vacuum pull first to drag out any oil and stuff and after that use a vacuum to draw their pore sealant into the metal. I understand its a very common - 'out of warranty' fix for lamborghini motors!

I once had it done to the head of a Yamaha 2 wheeler (YP250 - stop laughing!)
 

Martyn Goodwin

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Thank you for my deliverance from sin and its consequences Martyn. Interesting article. You have just enlightened another one of those unwashed heathens.
Have you tackled the head yet?? Here is a trap for old players.... I thought the tappets were a tad noisy lately and today opened the inspection caps to find the exhaust rocker was loose - I was able to wobble it both up n down as well as in and out!! WTF!!

A month back (some 800 miles since) I had fitted a new ET100/1 modified rocker feed bolt replacing a worn component. I did not check at the time but have since discovered that the shaft portion of the new ET100/1 that passes through the hole in the rocker bearing ET26/1 was just a whisker longer than the hole in the bearing was deep. Result was with everything done up tight ET26/1, the rocker bearing was NOT being held/clamped securely against the roof of the rocker tunnel and was free to float about. No wonder it was noisy.

This did cause some minor fretting inside the tunnel but nothing requiring work to the head itself. The fix was to take out the 'nut' from the ET100/1 and carefully grind its length / shoulders to the point where it no longer protrudes beyond the outer surface of the rocker bearing. All back together now and the motor is a quiet as a mouse - well one eating nuts :).

Of course, having disturbed the oil return lines I now have a minor oil leak at the base of the rocker feed banjo - its the fibre washer ET189 - so next task , find a replacement for that! Anyone know what the ID of that fibre washer is meant to be??

M
 

bmetcalf

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Doesn't Neal Videan supply a Dowty-style washer for that? I measured across the points of the hex and got locally sourced items. USA source: MSC (not the right size)
 

Simon Dinsdale

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Have you tackled the head yet?? Here is a trap for old players.... I thought the tappets were a tad noisy lately and today opened the inspection caps to find the exhaust rocker was loose - I was able to wobble it both up n down as well as in and out!! WTF!!

A month back (some 800 miles since) I had fitted a new ET100/1 modified rocker feed bolt replacing a worn component. I did not check at the time but have since discovered that the shaft portion of the new ET100/1 that passes through the hole in the rocker bearing ET26/1 was just a whisker longer than the hole in the bearing was deep. Result was with everything done up tight ET26/1, the rocker bearing was NOT being held/clamped securely against the roof of the rocker tunnel and was free to float about. No wonder it was noisy.

This did cause some minor fretting inside the tunnel but nothing requiring work to the head itself. The fix was to take out the 'nut' from the ET100/1 and carefully grind its length / shoulders to the point where it no longer protrudes beyond the outer surface of the rocker bearing. All back together now and the motor is a quiet as a mouse - well one eating nuts :).

Of course, having disturbed the oil return lines I now have a minor oil leak at the base of the rocker feed banjo - its the fibre washer ET189 - so next task , find a replacement for that! Anyone know what the ID of that fibre washer is meant to be??

M
I use a soft aluminium washer specifically for sealing banjos & oil plugs etc which has an advantage of when tightening down the rocker pipe screw it pulls up tight. The fibre washers provided today appear to be too soft and slowly squeeze out the way.
I bought a bag of 50 over 10 years ago for less that £10 for the bag and sorry I don't have a reference to where they came from. Its getting to the point where I need some more so may need to search the internet.
 

vibrac

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I use a soft aluminium washer specifically for sealing banjos & oil plugs etc which has an advantage of when tightening down the rocker pipe screw it pulls up tight. The fibre washers provided today appear to be too soft and slowly squeeze out the way.
I bought a bag of 50 over 10 years ago for less that £10 for the bag and sorry I don't have a reference to where they came from. Its getting to the point where I need some more so may need to search the internet.
Simply bearings have them at nearly £2 for two -5/16" id good luck with your search prices seem to have gone up a tad...
 

Martyn Goodwin

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Doesn't Neal Videan supply a Dowty-style washer for that? I measured across the points of the hex and got locally sourced items. USA source: MSC (not the right size)
Yes .. but he left a day or so back to inspect his estates in Siam. Given there extent he will be gone for a month or more!
 

Simon Dinsdale

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Simply bearings have them at nearly £2 for two -5/16" id good luck with your search prices seem to have gone up a tad...
You have the wrong size. They are no where nere 5/16 id. They go over the hex head of the ET100/1 rocker feed bolt and I just measured one and across the tips of the hex they are 15.2mm. I use 16mm i/d x 20mm o/d aluminium washers 1.5mm thick and have just found a pack of 50 in the UK for £2.35. See:
http://www.gwr-fasteners.co.uk/aluminium-washers-16-x-20-x-15-7565-p.asp

Probably plus VAT and postage.

Simon
 

Bill Thomas

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Might be an idea to check the fit of the pipes, Without the washer, We fitted some new ones and they were not deep enough, So the bolts went tight before squashing the washer, They were NOT Club Shop, We drilled them out from inside. Cheers Bill.
 

Cyborg

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Not sure what to say about the YP250. I assume it is a beer fetcher strapped to the back of a motorhome and you didn't want oil dripping on your nice chrome bumper.
I'll have to do some reading on the 3M process, but could not overcome my phobia about sending things out for work, at least not for a front head or cases. I am forced to send the barrel out because I don't own a rigid hone and that is about all the trauma I can withstand.
I haven't started on the head yet, other than sort through the bucket to see what is usable and what will become yard art. Good thing to watch for on the ET100/1. I have 3 ET26/1 and just measured them to see if they might be part of the equation. Between the 3, they vary by about .002 in thickness where the ET110/1 would pass through. One is new and probably from the 70's and 2 are used with the ET26/1 stamped onto them.
 
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